tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19748732.post6309287126287397489..comments2023-08-14T11:05:03.594+00:00Comments on NoolaBeulah: TranslationNoolaBeulahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02181815160785834692noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19748732.post-85444995154101599112008-03-01T13:03:00.000+00:002008-03-01T13:03:00.000+00:00Calm down, guys. In several short words i showed m...Calm down, guys. In several short words i showed my dislike for Melanie Phillips and her column in Spectator, etc. They way she is so agressive in all talk shows i listened to on Radio 4, it just makes me cringe, sorry! <BR/><BR/>As to the subject:H onestly I try not to read anything related to Palestine or Israel actually, so I glossed over intricacies of the explanations. Two things possible 1) Mistranslation without an and 2) Intent to have a slip of the tongue. Thats it.Hazar Nesimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03906681712746544309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19748732.post-70243086137101574202008-03-01T09:30:00.000+00:002008-03-01T09:30:00.000+00:00We all know what "the other" means, it's just that...We all know what "the other" means, it's just that we prefer to argue over semantics at the expense of context. It fills more press pages than arguing over the actual issues which we all believe in our heart of hearts have no solution.<BR/><BR/>For me and for many others, Holocaust and Disaster (inflicted on Palestinian by the Israelis) are perfectly interchangeable words within the Israelo-Palestinian crisis. But for many more others, including the Media, the issue is about the choice of words and whether it was a translation mistake or not. Silly.<BR/><BR/>Words are worth nothing if their primary function is to conceal and confuse.Vannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11814025517185126126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19748732.post-53163469525335815362008-02-29T23:11:00.000+00:002008-02-29T23:11:00.000+00:00Er... yes. I mean, no. I mean, huh?Er... yes. I mean, no. I mean, huh?NoolaBeulahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02181815160785834692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19748732.post-42440054723575101732008-02-29T17:26:00.000+00:002008-02-29T17:26:00.000+00:00But how is saying that even if the politician actu...But how is saying that even if the politician actually meant Holocaust but couldn't use this actual word becuase he is a politician and also because he is Jewish like Melanie Phillips described, and therefore the word he used couldn't have been translated as Holocaust under any circumstances but a translation mistake whether deliberate or not, how is that not discussing what the politician had meant or how the journalist interpreted it?<BR/><BR/>Can't get any more relevant discussion of the issue than that me thinks.Vannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11814025517185126126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19748732.post-50395765726236049782008-02-29T17:14:00.000+00:002008-02-29T17:14:00.000+00:00Excellent example of how difficult it has become t...Excellent example of how difficult it has become to even talk about this issue. A politician uses an expression that is misunderstood, and the pillars of the world shake. Above we have in the space of one comment "sexist, misogynist, Holocaust Denier and antisemitic". We do not discuss what the politician meant, or one journalist's interpretation, but the journalist herself. Should I infer that, because Melanie Phillips said it, it can't be right? Or, even if the politician <I>didn't</I> say it, that's what he really meant? <BR/><BR/>Is it not even possible to infer that somebody simply made a translation mistake?NoolaBeulahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02181815160785834692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19748732.post-31089492379518885962008-02-29T16:37:00.000+00:002008-02-29T16:37:00.000+00:00Now Nazim, that statement coming from your Muslim ...Now Nazim, that statement coming from your Muslim self can only be called sexist or misogynist.<BR/><BR/>Melanie's "explanation" on the other hand places her firmly in the Holocaust Deniers' clan.<BR/><BR/>You see, everyone is antisemitic. Denying so will only complicate matters for you.Vannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11814025517185126126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19748732.post-49120946340914097522008-02-29T16:28:00.000+00:002008-02-29T16:28:00.000+00:00Melanie Phillips - explains? These three words don...Melanie Phillips - explains? These three words don't sit well together.Hazar Nesimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03906681712746544309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19748732.post-77814329872938254342008-02-29T16:21:00.000+00:002008-02-29T16:21:00.000+00:00Aaah! That's alright then. Much better. Political ...Aaah! That's alright then. Much better. Political correctness at its most sublime eh.<BR/><BR/>Might I venture to enquire though; wen does a disaster become a Holocaust then? Or is Jewish Law silent on that one?Vannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11814025517185126126noreply@blogger.com